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Blacklist Connector for Movable Type 3.2

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Mark







PostPosted: March 13, 2006 10:04 AM 

This plugin acts as a "connector" between MT-Blacklist and Movable Type 3.2. The most recent (and final) version of MT-Blacklist was not designed to work with Movable Type 3.2. The reason for this is because MT3.2 included SpamLookup, a new spam filtering plugin. While SpamLookup may be effective for many users of Movable Type, some people (including myself) found that MT-Blacklist was more effective on their systems. It is for this reason that I have created this "connector" plugin.

The connector is not for everyone -- some systems will benefit more than others. In my opinion, systems with the following characteristics may be ideal candidates:

  • systems with many blogs
  • systems with a large number of entries
  • systems that had accumulated a large Blacklist before upgrading to MT3.2

Note that this connector plugin is not an alternative to SpamLookup. With Blacklist32 installed, comments and trackbacks will be scanned by both SpamLookup and Blacklist32. In some cases, each plugin may assign a junk score to the same comment -- keep this in mind when adjusting your spam score settings.

Requirements:

  • MT-Blacklist 2.04b (may work with prior versions, but I have not tested them) - MT-Blacklist does all the heavy lifting, Blacklist32 just hooks into it to make it work nicely with MT3.2. Download MT-Blacklist 2.04b
  • Movable Type 3.2
.

Features:

Blacklist32 includes the following 'hooks':

  • New comments and trackbacks will be checked for matches against your local MT-Blacklist. If a match is found, a junk score is assigned, and a feedback log message is added.
  • A "Despam Comment(s)" action has been added to the Comment Listing screen. Simply check the comments that you want to despam, and choose this action from the dropdown. MT-Blacklist will then despam the comments, extracting any domains for optional inclusion in the blacklist. Note that items are junked, not deleted.
  • A similar plugin action has been added to the Edit Comment screen, enabling you to despam a single comment from that screen.

Installation:

  • Download Blacklist32 v0.75
  • Upload to the 'plugins' directory of your MT installation.
  • Adjust the junk score weight via Settings > Plugins, if desired (default is 1)

As always, questions, comments, bug reports are appreciated.

Mike

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PostPosted: February 11, 2007 2:37 PM 

Some questions:

a) How compatible is this stuff with MT 3.34?
b) Fearing conflicts, I have turned off "over five links -> moderation" featur eon MT-Blacklist; what kind of conflicts between SpamLookup and MT-Blacklist can occur and how should I deal with them?
c) Your .pl script had a typo, so I had to add /mt/ to the directory listing for the "Despam" feature to work (but maybe this is how stuff is set up only on my own server).
d) Is there any way to modify the script so that it really deletes the junk posts instead of archiving them in the Junk folder? (What's the rationale behind keeping them, anyway?)
e) Finally: your opinion - why does SpamLookup suck so badly, compared to MT-Blacklist?! The same guy made it...so why'd he make it *worse* than before?

Hope this doesn't get deleted as blogspam, heh,

-- Mike Wink

Mark Carey [TypeKey Profile Page]

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PostPosted: February 11, 2007 4:29 PM 

Mike, here are answers:

a) To be honest, this is not my primary anti-spam tool right now (I use mod_security, but that is a separate topic). That said, this plugin is still enabled in my MT 3.33 installation and still catches spam. So it does work, and I am not aware of any incompatibilities.

b) Don't worry about that one. This plugin doesn't implement all of the Blacklist feature, it merely scans each comment / trackback against the content of the blacklist. It doesn't implement any of the link counting features -- you can use SpamLookup for that if you want.

c) Probably your server, but I could have done a better job coding that part so that it works no matter what Wink

d) No. Since this plugin hooks into MT's junk filters, you can't tell it to delete completely. There are a few reason you want them to go to the junk folder. Number one is that sometimes a valid comment gets junked -- if it was deleted, you would never know, and you wouldn't be able to publish it.

e) First, different guys made MT-Blacklist and Spamlookup. Second, spamlookup does actually suck -- it is actually quite capable. The difference between the two approaches is that MT-B included a master blacklist that was continually be updated -- whereas SpamLookup doesn't have this. SpamLookup ships with a blank filter list. Because of this, out of the box, it isn't very effective. But if you added a long list of words and patterns to block, it can be just as effective as MT-B. Most people don't have the knowledge or the time to compile such a list, so in practical use, spamlookup ends up being ineffective.

Mike

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PostPosted: February 11, 2007 10:38 PM 

Thanks for the fast reply, Mark! You have been very thorough in answering my questions.

Now, I guess, I want to learn more about mod_security. Ever since my upgrade to MT 3.34, I've been flooded with spam, and I guess I want better protection now.

Thanks in advance for your time! Wink

Gary LaPointe

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PostPosted: February 17, 2007 9:58 AM 

Oh, another plug in I might need!

Actually I was just looking for reassurance that MT_blacklist will still work with MT3.3.

I'll have to try this out once I'm stable and running on 3.3

What I like about blacklist is it deletes the obvious spam. I get 300-500 a day so I don't want to have to look at the junk folder and glance at the completely obvious ones and maybe miss a real comment. I like looking in there and only having a few dozen I need to look at...

Thanks!



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